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Original Message 1/22             27-Dec-02  @  05:00 PM   -   Clonaid and 1st human clone?

Arti

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Yes indeed, what you heard today is in fact the TRUTH. Brother Raoul's Raelianic subsidiary Clonaid has finally unlocked the key to our achieving immortality through reproductive cloning. And the timing has made it an immanent possibility within our own lifetimes.

All that is left is the mastering of the clones' accelerated and precise neural brain growth manipulation before our beings may be transferred to the next healthiest clone for eternal life! Of course our founding race of beings made this easy for us, all too easy. Perhaps you don't realize how close we really are

With your help, this will be possible within your lifetime(s) --

"I'm a self-reliance person so "Save me!" is absolutely not my way. I want to become many things, artist, musician, explorer, etc... but life is too short for that."

Not anymore it's not, your lifetime will become lifetimes my brothers! Join us now! Go Raelian.com!



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Message 2/22             27-Dec-02  @  05:10 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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immortality is overated.

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 3/22             27-Dec-02  @  05:21 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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i believe they have yet to show any proof of it. or do they expect us to have "faith"?



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Message 4/22             27-Dec-02  @  08:16 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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"immortality through reproductive cloning" does rather assume tha dna is the be all and end all of "you"



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Message 5/22             27-Dec-02  @  09:20 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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yeah big deal. I made a clone last year in my basement... I asked him if I could transfer my being, and he was like "No way! I'm too busy right now. Pass me that pipe."

Imagine my surprise!!

.... anyway, I thought the real (practical) promise of cloning research was generating suitable tissue for organ replacement... like when old age hits, getting a new heart that is truly your own... or growing stem cells that will replace your old brain tissue...

seems kind of silly that aliens would seed the planet, and then not even stop by to say hello/demand worship....



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Message 6/22             28-Dec-02  @  02:03 AM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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"There can be only ONE!"



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Message 7/22             28-Dec-02  @  03:01 AM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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Message 8/22             28-Dec-02  @  10:52 AM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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Funny Ghost,

Eugenics in another name, but todays Neo Nazis don't believe that the WW2 atrocities actually happened - funny that.

Transplantation source material is where it is at 'officially', but watch out for prostitutes giving birth to litres of pharma grade proteins.

The Catholics and Mussolini were right - more and more, make countrymen, win with numbers. I mean this tech will save on outgoings, and only the rich can afford it, exactly the type of people we want to be here forever, living off their long term bonds and 10,0000 employees. Is GWB looking for more land to house these new immortals, make more, use more, repeat to fade...

excuse-eh?

Mother



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Message 9/22             28-Dec-02  @  11:38 AM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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cheddar, that was one of more coherent things i heard you say.



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Message 10/22             29-Dec-02  @  01:47 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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I for one, welcome our insect overlords.



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Message 11/22             31-Dec-02  @  10:56 AM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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Ahem...
I guess u don't know that Rael was a rally pilot before, in the 60s/70s :-)
Then he launched this all-too-nice-working-so-well-that-he-sticks-to-it stuff ! Naming himself Rael, and so on ! Hu hu hu !
Well, irrelevant, but his main joke made him famous, not his driving skill :-)

And you don't know that Boisselier is sooooo good a doctor that she does better than every other one ! ;-)
Got it right! 5 success! No failure on trials! and of course, a perfect human being.

And probably their clones will NEVER die in horrible suffering, or suffer malfunctions and anomalies, just like the other living clones. :-D

And of course they will be grown in Raelian ideology, so that they will accept to be only the future receptacles of their original model's mind, so that they will be emptied of their own mind ! ;-D

;-) Keep "faith"



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Message 12/22             31-Dec-02  @  11:00 AM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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I now understand why this thread was launched:

THEY ALREADY CLONE SYNTHS ! Synths are immortal !

You can buy a virus C now, and another new one 2 years from now, and transfer the first one's mind in sysx into the latest !
WOW !! Access are Raelians !!! So are Waldorf, and Korg, and Roland... We are doooooooooomed !!

I CAN'T SEE ANY OTHER LINK WITH SYNTHS !!



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Message 13/22             31-Dec-02  @  04:48 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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you are leaving out the most crucial determinant regarding rael's construct. He used to think of himself as the next Jacques Brel.

To dream ... the impossible dream ...
To fight ... the unbeatable foe ...
To bear ... with unbearable sorrow ...
To run ... where the brave dare not go ...
To right ... the unrightable wrong ...
To love ... pure and chaste from afar ...
To try ... when your arms are too weary ...
To reach ... the unreachable star ...

This is my quest, to follow that star ...
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far ...
To fight for the right, without question or pause ...
To be willing to march into Hell, for a Heavenly cause ...

of course, it should be noted that Brel did not write that, but Joe Darion for the score of "Man from the mancha"

in the end, it's all about stealing your neighbor's donkey, stick a wig on it's head, apply some lipstick and tell your neighbor you can sell him your long gone sister :D



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Message 14/22             31-Dec-02  @  07:46 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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I am 90 years old and there is a button in front of me marked 'transfer consciousness into 18 year old body'. Brain will be kept alive and regenerated in situ with stem cells saved from the clones original grey matter, (thoughtfully removed from the devoloping foetus for this purpose).

There is another button marked 'die'.



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Message 15/22             31-Dec-02  @  08:56 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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nah, i'm all for "transfering" in an 18 year old.

"But that's the way I like it baby
I don't want to live forever"



 



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Message 16/22             02-Jan-03  @  03:06 AM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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Ha you mock me now but you shouldn't. Raelians will be the ones alive after 1000 years while your soul will be nothing more than an underground pile of bones.

We will have an accumulated knowledge so profound that no average 72-year-lifespan man's mind would be able to comprehend it. In fact average man will worship us like gods once as our infinite knowledge begins to solve their problems and make life better for them.

Yes there are some who would like take advantage of Raelian superiority through eternal life. This faction would like to enslave average man for its own well being.

But neither I nor other kind, goodhearted, true Raeliens would ever let such a sinister group prevail. For this you should be thanking, and not mocking, us.



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Message 17/22             02-Jan-03  @  06:54 AM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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everything after "you mock me" was 100% pure bullsh!t. the "you mock me" part was spot on, though.



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Message 18/22             02-Jan-03  @  04:36 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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my soul is all funny bones anyway.

but i digress what we all really want to know is how much "sensuous meditation" you get for 7% of your annual income?



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Message 19/22             06-Jan-03  @  01:39 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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Couldnt we just make lots of Gillian Anderson clones and have done with it ?



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Message 20/22             06-Jan-03  @  02:08 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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Call me a traditionalist but I'll take old fashioned shagging before cloning any day of the week.These rael followers are not to be taken seriously I doubt they will ever produce satisfactory evidence that they have achieved what they say they have.This publicity stunt has been engineered by them to garner more interest in their organization in order to harvest more followers/financial contributers to further their nefarious activities.



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Message 21/22             06-Jan-03  @  02:51 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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If you live for ever you will get lazy ;)



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Message 22/22             06-Jan-03  @  04:04 PM   -   RE: Clonaid and 1st human clone?

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yeah that's right arti - we're gonna worship you like God's!

ha ha ha -  

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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