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Original Message 1/8             07-Jan-03  @  10:03 AM   -   Recording guitar

IntoxicatingSounds

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I'm thinking about getting an amp sim/effects box for recording guitar. Line 6 pod, Behringer V-amp, that sort of thing. Anyone got any experience of these and like to make any recommendations? I've had a look at the reviews on Harmony Central and they seem to fall into two opposing camps ie they are brilliant/ they are completely useless. So that's not much help.

Deano



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Message 2/8             07-Jan-03  @  12:58 PM   -   RE: Recording guitar

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to be honest I use my old marshall mic'd up - even at low volume the results come out good once you add some compression, stereo spreader and other stuff. I can get a clkean sound or a full on power distortion anything from a sort of sabbath grind to a clash/pistols overdrive sound. Of course your amp/combo needs to be able to offer distortion/overdrive at low master volume out so the nieghbours don't lynch you!  

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Message 3/8             07-Jan-03  @  01:10 PM   -   RE: Recording guitar

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Ah, a valve purist! The thing is I haven't played electric guitar for years so I don't have a nice old valve amp and I don't really have the space. Also I need to able to do funk/disco type stuff with effects like chorus and autowah as well as distortion. I'm pretty tempted by the V-amp. Thomann are doing it for just over 100. It's probably worth that just for the effects.



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Message 4/8             08-Jan-03  @  03:27 PM   -   RE: Recording guitar

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Not sure about the V-amp but used the old pod (not the new Xwhateverit'scalled thing). It was ok, bit fiddley sometimes and really didn't give the edit levels I was expecting. I think alot of synth users find that, moving from PC edits etc. to pedals, where the whole delay circuit is controlled by three knobs with little/no external sync. I prefer using my marshall/big muff pi, then do any effecting in the PC.



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Message 5/8             08-Jan-03  @  03:59 PM   -   RE: Recording guitar

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there's plenty of rack gear for recording that has tubes in it... i like my H&K blues master for instance (though i'm not a very good guitar player)... there are lots of these types. POD will probably work OK, but i tried it once and it didn't feel right, not enough dynamics or something. might have been how it was set it, i just plugged in on a friend's guitar.

the different reviews could be just differences in tone preferences, or for real tube gear, different tubes (i always replace tubes in my tube gear with either JJ/Tesla or Ei for guitar stuff, and sovtek 12ax7LPS for pro-audio stuff like my pro vla) can make a huge difference in the sound (i couldn't believe when i swapped out the cheap and apparently-well-used H&K-branded tubes with the JJs... amazing difference). so if you play one with bad tubes, you'll get a bad impression (it can make a good unit sound BAD!).

also there's the impression factor... even a POD sounds a heck of a lot better than a cheap solid state practice amp...

i haven't tried this one personally, but a confessed tone-freak friend (though i wasn't sure about his choices all the time!) passed on the POD for a rocktron voodu valve, said it sounded better. also heard recommendations for the rocktron piranha, and i like most of the 1/2 rack H&K boxes (the tubeman too, though it's not quite as nice as the 1/2 racks). they might not be quite as nice as an amp, but they're easier to record, and they take up a lot less room  

maybe someone else has some other ideas?



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Message 6/8             16-Jan-03  @  01:10 PM   -   RE: Recording guitar

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Thanks for the advice. Which I have completely ignored and will probably regret   I went for the V-amp, mainly because it seems like it will be pretty versatile and give me lots of different sounds in one box. And it's cheap. I know there is no substitute for a real valve amp but for my needs digital simulation is probably good enough. When I've had a play with it I'll let you know what I think.
I ordered it from Thomann through the DT store. Very easy ordering, good price and it was delivered in about a week.



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Message 7/8             16-Jan-03  @  03:56 PM   -   RE: Recording guitar

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Well like Nomad said, loads of rack tooob stuff, check ebay , theres usually some tube pre amps on there for around 100 which shud work nicely with the V-amp thing and give you that genuine kick ass thick marshall tone.



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Message 8/8             20-Mar-03  @  05:06 AM   -   RE: Recording guitar

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Wait! One more from the valve purist camp! Carvin
makes a 16 watt tube amp for $350. The low wattage
means giant breakup at a relatively low volume. I
played one not long ago and it sounded like a tube
amp! - great in other words. Get some stomp boxes,
throw an SM 57 in front of it and you're well on
your way. Modellers are cool, but moving air is
where i



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