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Original Message 1/16 10-Mar-03 @ 12:00 AM - Longhorn XP

Steve Roughley

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I know it's not due for a couple of years, but what do you guys think? There have been several leaks already and all I've heard is good news about this OS. It looks like Microsoft might be really starting to compete with stable OS's.

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Steve.

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Message 2/16 10-Mar-03 @ 05:02 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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No way, I'm seriously ed off about them building stuff into the bios to send info to their servers. I'm not gonna even look at it until I've got a crack thing to stop that happening. They have no rights to do stuff like that, it's just digital stalking when it comes down to it.

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Message 3/16 10-Mar-03 @ 06:12 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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Don't forget that these points (sometimes even rumours) come along with a lot of major updates. Remeber Intel Pentium 3? They are usually left out or unfounded.

Steve.

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Message 4/16 10-Mar-03 @ 09:32 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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Erm... BIOS is firmware. It can't be modified by the OS. With XP you can turn the QOS network service off.

-Craig

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Message 5/16 11-Mar-03 @ 05:47 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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It doesn't modify it, it's in there from the start.
From what I was reading it has gone beyond rumour and AMD/Via/Intel etc. have agreed to build it into their chip sets etc.
Microsoft wouldn't have gotten away with the XP phone up code thing a few years ago but people are gradually letting them get away with more and more. Have you seen the prices of office lately?!!

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Message 6/16 11-Mar-03 @ 08:36 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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I find it hard to believe all the chipset manufacturers would do this for MS. Do you have a reference for this?

-Craig

BTW - I get Office through academic discount

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Message 7/16 12-Mar-03 @ 10:57 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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I do too but generally it's such a rip. Can't remember where I read it, think it was in a pc mag or two but I'll try to find some more info.

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Message 8/16 13-Mar-03 @ 06:26 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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Here's a couple articles relating to "longhorn" and the implementation of the Palladium into it and also in Intel chips.

http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb03/articles/pcnotes0203.asp

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

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Message 9/16 13-Mar-03 @ 06:28 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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From that SOS article: "Longhorn, probably some time during 2003, which might end up being the final Microsoft operating system to support PCI soundcards"

That's kind of interesting.

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Message 10/16 13-Mar-03 @ 07:13 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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Scary. I hope that this gets a serious legal challenge from someone with deep enough pockets to really contest this.

-Craig

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Message 11/16 14-Mar-03 @ 07:49 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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New file system too... No more NTFS or FAT32....

And check this pic out...

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Message 12/16 14-Mar-03 @ 07:50 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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oh, and XP is just as stable as OSX, if not more so.

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Message 13/16 14-Mar-03 @ 09:14 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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I agree on the stability. Like a rock

The new file system is actually a database.. Embedded SQL server.

-Craig

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Message 14/16 14-Mar-03 @ 10:04 PM Edit: 14-Mar-03 | 10:08 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

Steve Roughley

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Didn't realise they were on 5 yet! I certainly hope you can revert to the original simple windows design. That just looks scary

Kinda like the interface to Wipeout2097 I'm sure one of those icons on the bottom right is the 'Electrobolt'

. But reports from those with leaked copies have stated that M$ have drastically improved the stability to better Windows XP! So I am really looking forward to this.

Steve.

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Message 15/16 16-Mar-03 @ 01:24 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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But just like XP, Mac OS etc. it's wasting so many damn clock cycles!!! All those crappy animations and high colour destops etc.

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Message 16/16 16-Mar-03 @ 04:29 PM - RE: Longhorn XP

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you just switch the view to classic. and don't use any of the advanced features of the new interface. turn it off and it looks like windows 98. there are a bunch of stuff you do in xp to make it perform better for audio. but to really maximize it you have to set all the services to manual, including the networking. all that stuff slows the system down. i am about to get my first mac here in a few weeks. don't know what to expect, but I am optimistic and look forward to learning more about os, and osx.

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