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Original Message 1/19 29-Jun-03 @ 11:33 PM - akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

queasy

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hey guys.

i have another boring gear question for you guys

See I'm looking for a sampler and I'm just so confused now. There's so many!

I planned on doing the waveform editing in soundforge and then doing some sort of scsi link to the sampler of which I hopped would have some effects and filters (good ones). Also I hoped the effects/filters could be controlled realtime either onboard or via controller.

The esi32's sounded like it might do the trick but i keep hearing how their effects/filters (via the expansion) aren't really thaaat good. I mean, only some are usuable (or have i confused this with another sampler?)

Anyway, so I looked into the Akai s2000 which seemed perfect -if it had the expansions. But then I stumbled upon the s3000/3200/3200XL/3000XL and now i'm just confused as to which ones do what.

Any help from you guys would be greatly appreciated! I've always gotten help from you in the past hehehe..

pre-ps: I would like to grab this (used of course) around 500cdn which might be ridiculous, but the absolute ceiling is 1000cdn.

Thanks again!
-j

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Message 2/19 01-Jul-03 @ 10:24 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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what's a hougerwomp?

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Message 3/19 01-Jul-03 @ 06:25 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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i'll tell you if you answer my question ;)

-j

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Message 4/19 01-Jul-03 @ 06:46 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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not too sure of the Akai lineage...

BUT...

Do yourself a favor, look at a used Yamaha A3000... Dirt cheap, tons of memory, awesome effects, great filters (16 I think, or more). 2 step keymapping, sample parameters (filters, effects bus, midi channel, keymapping, etc) assigned per sample... meaning different parameters per sample on the same channel etc...

It's a killer best happy sampler for you to make a smile!!!

e

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Message 5/19 01-Jul-03 @ 07:28 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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check the ARTICLES section for a full lineage of akai samplers.

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Message 6/19 01-Jul-03 @ 08:43 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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gaaahar!
foolishness for not checking out the articles on dt.

thanks for the tip on the yamaha a3000.. i'll check 'em out now.

-j

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Message 7/19 01-Jul-03 @ 09:13 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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hmm...
ic i c ic what you mean about that yamaha.

lemme ask you tho (cause i've been reading some stuff on harmony-central): what's up with the slow transfer? Isn't scsi supposed to be fast?

-j

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Message 8/19 01-Jul-03 @ 10:52 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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yeah yeah... The SCSI IS a little on the slow side, can't pretend to know why. Still faster that serial or parallel, I've never complained about the speed. And the CPU moves quick enough from function to function...

And I load whole new performances (samples, settings, etc) during my live set. Doesn't take but a few seconds...

e

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Message 9/19 02-Jul-03 @ 01:14 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

queasy

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ic.
that's not too bad.
so like.. a megabyte a second at least? that's plenty.

-j

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Message 10/19 02-Jul-03 @ 02:21 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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honestly, the yamaha A series are the only ones with FX worth mentioning. Even the RFX upgrade in the Emu Ultra series is..well...vanilla.

personally, Ive always used outboard FX, but kinda always wanted to try out a yamaha

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Message 11/19 02-Jul-03 @ 06:32 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

queasy

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yeah i think i might just go outboard if they don't cut it since the yamaha might be cheap enough.

and then i could use the same board for my guitar :D

-j

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Message 12/19 02-Jul-03 @ 07:34 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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incidentaly, the yamaha works as an outboard effects processor as well. you can route the audio inputs throught the effects blocks just like an internal sample, and still use it as a sampler at the same time.

Best sampler ever... really.

e

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Message 13/19 02-Jul-03 @ 11:03 PM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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*cough*K2500*cough*

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Message 14/19 03-Jul-03 @ 12:20 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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I dunno' man. Very nice sampler indeed, but i had the k2000 for awhile, and as a sampler, I think the Yamaha still goes that extra step or two!

e

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Message 15/19 03-Jul-03 @ 02:00 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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well if we're talking "get the samples in and play em" sampler, then pretty much anything is better than the Kurzweil. It's a beastie to set up keymaps and such, but I was really talking about V.A.S.T. programming in general. Perhaps the filters aren't quite as sweet, but they are incredibly flexible.

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Message 16/19 03-Jul-03 @ 04:04 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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Totaly... And I'm not "really" arguing with you, the Kurzweil is one of the deepest architectures around... but, overall, I like the Yamy more, for ease of use, yes... and the sheer programability and diversity of the system.

e

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Message 17/19 03-Jul-03 @ 05:55 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

queasy

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if you're planning on givin' me yours say, then for sure, hands down, the k2500 is MUCH better

-j

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Message 18/19 03-Jul-03 @ 05:56 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

queasy

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umm.

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-j

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Message 19/19 03-Jul-03 @ 07:54 AM - RE: akais2000/3200/3000XL hougerwomp

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queasy, you're a geek.

That's a compliment.

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