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Original Message 1/22 14-Jul-03 @ 05:52 PM - about dedicated audio drives...

knowa

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everyone seems to agree that it's best to have your apps on the main (C) drive and a second drive dedicated to audio files.

but will I get this performance gain if I use the internal hard drive as my back-up, and load/stream, samples and files from an external firewire drive? i.e. is it the PRESENCE of audio files on the system drive or thier USE that is not recommended?

thanks.

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Message 2/22 14-Jul-03 @ 06:20 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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Use. The idea is that if the OS and audio are on two seperate IDE channels, then the system can access both at the same time. If they're on seperate physical drives, you can lose your OS, fdisk and reformat, and not lose your audio.

I put cake bundles on the OS drive temporarily sometimes, before I burn 'em to DVD.

-Craig

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Message 3/22 14-Jul-03 @ 06:44 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

knowa

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thanks a lot, craig.

recommendations for a quiet, 7200 rpm firewire drive using the oxford 911 chipset, anyone?

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Message 4/22 14-Jul-03 @ 06:52 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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I recommend cambridge, not oxford

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Message 5/22 15-Jul-03 @ 08:06 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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I have no recommendations for Firewire drives because I don't use 'em. Internal are cheaper and not very difficult to install, unless you've already got 4 drives in your system

-Craig

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Message 6/22 15-Jul-03 @ 09:50 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

knowa

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it's for a laptop. a brand new toshiba which I'm sooooooooooooo happy with. the only trouble with using windows is that I have to manually type ".aif" about 7,000 times. fast computers= woohoo.

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Message 7/22 16-Jul-03 @ 12:11 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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The Lacie ones seem pretty popular. Can't be more specific tho.

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Message 8/22 16-Jul-03 @ 01:46 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

99devils

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Gotcha. Using a laptop is a good reason for Firewire too

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Message 9/22 16-Jul-03 @ 02:01 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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LaCie firewires are like tanks, awesome. Be wary of drives from any company that are powered by the port itself. They are generally way too slow for audio use.

The Lacie's with a fast drive in em can stream nearly 64 tracks though.

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Message 10/22 17-Jul-03 @ 01:37 AM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

digital rust

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i have 2 lacies. awesome drives. no problems with them
for me.

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Message 11/22 17-Jul-03 @ 04:16 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

knowa

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yes lacie d2 seems to be the one. thanks.

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Message 12/22 19-Jul-03 @ 03:23 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

manthra

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Im to lazy to start a new thread so I ask you here, what�s the best (in your opinion) internal (IDE?) drive for audio? I will probably use only one drive for everything, so maybe a 10.000 rpm drive? I typically use 16 to 24 audiotracks. Will my system be a bottleneck for audio data, using a drive faster that 7 200 rpm.

Also, is RAID-0 any good?

spec: P4 1.4 (400mhz bus, 256kb cache)
384 mb RDRAM (400mhz) (soon 700+)

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Message 13/22 19-Jul-03 @ 04:43 PM Edit: 19-Jul-03 | 04:44 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

psylichon

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you're thinking about it too much. A good 7200 rpm SerialATA drive (or ATA133, 150 whatever) will do ya fine. I don't even think they make IDE drives with faster platters than 7200, but I could be wrong.

SCSI is all but dead in the home studio PC world. And Raid is overkill unless it's data reliability you're going for instead of speed. You will run out of processor headroom way before you run out of disk bandwidth, trust me.

I recommend one of the newer Maxtor or Western Digital drives with the 8MB cache. I've noticed my new one is considerably faster than my other drives.

psy

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Message 14/22 19-Jul-03 @ 07:44 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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have yet to see a 10k IDE drive

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Message 15/22 21-Jul-03 @ 01:55 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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Maxtors. I've been using them exclusively for about 3 years now and they're the fastest drives for the money, and I've yet to have one die on me. I can't say that about IBM or Western Digital.

-Craig

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Message 16/22 23-Jul-03 @ 04:05 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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Let me clear something up. there are 10k ide drives out now. scsi is not by any means dead. Why in the world would you think that considering there transfer rates are faster than IDE. I use scsi everyday in my studio and they are the best. firewire drives work great. Lets not talk about stuff we have no idea about fella's.

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Message 17/22 23-Jul-03 @ 05:10 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

soup dog

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the art thug hath spoken

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Message 18/22 23-Jul-03 @ 09:33 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

99devils

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Erm.. OK.

But seriously, an ATA-100 drive can stream more tracks than you'll likely need.

-Craig

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Message 19/22 24-Jul-03 @ 01:32 AM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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When's the last time you bought a SCSI drive? Did you order it from a Mac store?

If not, how long did it take them to special order it for you?

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Message 20/22 24-Jul-03 @ 02:05 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

99devils

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They still use them on servers where maximum throughput is required. And SCSI has the advantage of not needing resources from the host machine to operate. But still, IDE is so much cheaper and it's plenty fast enough for music uses. And you don't have to futz with another card in the machine.

When USB arrived for my S6K I very happily said goodbye to SCSI

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Message 21/22 24-Jul-03 @ 02:23 PM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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When's the last time you bought a SCSI drive? Did you order it from a Mac store?

If not, how long did it take them to special order it for you? <-

I use a PC and this is a PC thread. I buy my scsi drives online. No special order. Macs (I believe) dont have to have any special scsi drive.

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Message 22/22 26-Jul-03 @ 02:09 AM - RE: about dedicated audio drives...

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pc = personal computer!

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