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Original Message 1/10 22-Oct-03 @ 06:50 PM - Panning... Drummer or Audience?

qyme

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I'm working more with perspective/depth and such in my mixes. I wanted to know how most of you do your panning. I know that most if not all of you (since you create dance music) are using samples or synthetic/generated sounds. Even so, do you try to pan using more of a 'drummer's perspective' mix or from an 'audience perspective'? Or, a combination...depending on the song? Better yet...who simply does not care and just pans indiscriminately? Thanks!

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Message 2/10 22-Oct-03 @ 08:37 PM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

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umm... for "real" drums the 'audience perspective' seems to be the norm nowadays. i think someone recently criticised me for mixng the other way around (my preference).

but for dance... that thing is pretty much out. i tend to work in "wide mono", eg. having sounds more or less in the middle but using FX to lend them a broader sound.

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Message 3/10 23-Oct-03 @ 01:08 AM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

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I tend to pan it audience perspective when a kit's involved. got an old rogers kit on the other side of the glass at the moment -- piccolo snare and a timbale where the one rack would be. whee!

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Message 4/10 30-Oct-03 @ 02:32 AM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

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I tend to go for audience perspective on real drums and the like, but for dance, I like to "fill out" the sound spectrum with drums/percussion wherever things seem a wee bit empty. That said, Milan is spot on about current trends in mixing pretty much mono kits....

Pax

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Message 5/10 30-Oct-03 @ 12:13 PM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

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Milan - wide mono? What the hell is that you big poof! Look poster, just have all the drums in the middle apart from the shakers, hi perc (rims, etc) and maybe a hi hat at about 11 oclock. Plus I never pan drums past 9 and 3 o clock. Wide mono - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahhahahaahahahahhahahahaahahahhahahahahahhahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Message 6/10 30-Oct-03 @ 01:22 PM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

milan

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umm... yes... go see a doctor, he'll help you understand i'm sure

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Message 7/10 27-Nov-03 @ 02:29 AM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

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I get what he means by WIDE MONO tho (because he explains it)

makes sense even tho it's a contradiction too

if you center most stuff and use fx etc to get width-space - then when summed to mono, if the fx aren't too drastic you shouldn't get phase problems

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Message 8/10 29-Nov-03 @ 07:02 PM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

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so just to be obtuse, when you say thicken with fx, do you mean, say, adding delays and panning the delays from side to side? or adding stereo reverb? i mean, i don't know what else this would mean, but i'm pretty new to all this, so i just wanna be literal...thanx

and where are y'all putting those shakers if not straight up the middle?

thanx

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Message 9/10 30-Nov-03 @ 12:28 PM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

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this week i have been mostly panning my shakers to the right, guiro to the left.

no, really, i have.

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Message 10/10 30-Nov-03 @ 07:19 PM - RE: Panning... Drummer or Audience?

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well that's just silly, everyone knows guiros go on the right.

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