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Subject: "classic" synths? will new ones...
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Original Message 1/25 03-Dec-03 @ 10:23 PM - ever be considered?
synths like the xpander, OB series, Matrix, Jupiter6/8, MiniMoog, Prophet5, etc...
back 'then" they had character, defining "voices"...
wondering about the current crop...just a ton of VAs mostly, that sometimes dont sound all that distinctive...
do you think in 10-20 years any of these new synths will "matter"?
Message 2/25 04-Dec-03 @ 10:31 AM Edit: 04-Dec-03 | 10:32 AM - RE:
I wonder if 15 years from now people'll be arguing on the internet whether the VA's with shittier internal resolution and convertors have more 'character'?
Message 4/25 04-Dec-03 @ 03:19 PM - RE:
my 2 cents.
-Craig
Message 5/25 04-Dec-03 @ 04:58 PM - RE:
I think that says something...things being just cranked out...
but...maybe if I had asked this in 1985 the responses would have been the same?
"nah, the jupiter8 is too buggy...no one will remember it"?
Message 6/25 04-Dec-03 @ 05:31 PM - RE:
Message 7/25 04-Dec-03 @ 06:24 PM Edit: 04-Dec-03 | 06:27 PM - RE:
do you think in 10-20 years any of these new synths will "matter"?
no, i think they'll be superceeded by newer even better va's. like erm... access virus X, waldorf Q+++, and novation Supernova10?
only exciting thing i can think of right now is, if people like xoxos and the synthmaker crew manage to find a way to make all the weird synthesis/effect technologies as usable and accessible to the average user as an average va is, or like the aforementioned microwave xt and fs1r. then i'd be all about those types of synthesis instead of just dipping my toes in the water now and then
Message 8/25 04-Dec-03 @ 06:25 PM - RE:
Message 9/25 04-Dec-03 @ 07:31 PM - RE:
I say the Nord Lead will be a classic 20 years from now because it has a soul, like the classic instruments do. This is less apparent to Nord Rack users, but when you grab a Nord Lead keyboard and play it, you feel it. The action of the board, the way the pitchstick and modwheel feel under your hands, how the synth's sound reacts to the dynamics of playing and programming...
For me as a guitar player, it's like what I feel when I pick up an old Strat - it's got that something that makes you connect with the instrument and the music you make on it.
The Virus, on the other hand, is a fantastic sounding tool, and it's got all the features you'd want, but it doesn't quite have the moxy.
People pick the classics in an irrational way in general.. Does a '58 Strat stay in tune when I dive bomb the trem? Does a mini go out of tune when you drive to the gig in the cold? Sure, but nobody cares because they have that something.
Message 10/25 04-Dec-03 @ 08:06 PM - RE:
Message 11/25 04-Dec-03 @ 09:02 PM - RE:
You also can't deny the huge amount of artists who bought Nords early and still use them.
-Craig
Message 12/25 05-Dec-03 @ 01:14 AM - RE:
Message 13/25 06-Dec-03 @ 01:48 AM - RE:
btw, I consider the Nova's filters and oscs to be very unique... disctincly liquid... modeled after the OSCar if I'm not mistaken. Bubbles like no other...
Message 14/25 06-Dec-03 @ 10:10 AM - RE:
not the JP-8000 might be the only synth to take the cake... that supersaw sound literally
exploded the electronic music market everywhere. nothing VA wise has come to what it
has done. the nord though would probably be first in the graduating class b/c it was the
first to be created. but the jp-8k was sumtin that changed the sound of electronic music.
analog will always be what it is b/c the people who created it wanted a musical instrument
made for musicians...that mindset made 1980's music. Then when used differently, like
electronic music in the 1990's, people used synthesizers for the wrong reasons... Maybe
in twenty years some scene of gearists will use VA's for not electronic music but for
something else...
Message 17/25 06-Dec-03 @ 10:30 AM - RE:
how can you people be so subjective about it all?
anyway... i think you guys are in a way proving that they wont be remembred, except by the people who owned them. "what u say?"
Message 18/25 07-Dec-03 @ 05:04 PM - RE:
I think a good gauge of classis is which used synths you guys recommend.
Message 19/25 08-Dec-03 @ 11:41 AM - RE:
cant imagine the voyager taking on the status of a minimoog......
software is too copyable....but things like atmosphere are pushing the envelope...
i personally think the scene will slightly mutate to incorporate samplers and stuff..still hear loads of people bang on about the merits of the old akai 9xx series, the sp range, the old mpcs and the asr-1's. plus the akai s5k/6k looks like the last really decent hardware sampler....
greg
Message 20/25 08-Dec-03 @ 09:24 PM - RE:
A better question yet is whether these digital synths will survive another 20-30 years!
Tom
Message 21/25 09-Dec-03 @ 03:08 AM - RE:
Message 22/25 09-Dec-03 @ 03:43 AM Edit: 09-Dec-03 | 03:44 AM - RE:
Message 24/25 09-Dec-03 @ 01:19 PM - RE:
Message 25/25 11-Jan-04 @ 05:48 PM - RE:
$.02
Ape
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