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Original Message 1/8 07-Jan-04 @ 06:36 PM - restoring
whats up everybody-
i'm using my rm1x to sequence my virus for my live pa. i've got about a dozens songs together, each using a different multi and 8 sounds on the virus b. i've been backing up the virus using a sysex dump to sonar, saving it as 'all data'. i haven't actually had to restore the virus yet (thankfully), hopefully it works.
my songs are constantly changing over time. now, if i want to go back to a previous version (on the virus), i'm limited to dumping everything back, changing all the songs to old versions.
now this is my question: whats the best way to save & restore just a single multi & the sounds associated with it? i assumme i have to save the multi, and save the 8 sounds individually. bit of a hassle (time & organizing), but not to much of a problem. but what about restoring it? i'm mostly concerned about where the multi & sounds are going to end up when i restore. say i saved multi 51 & sounds A78 & B22. when i restore will it write over multi 51 & sounds A78 & B22? or will it put the multi & sounds into a buffer, making me have to save the sounds where i want them and re-assign the multi to thoses sounds? which could become confusing keeping track of what sounds go to each part of the multi, but would be nice because i could keep the new sounds as well.
like i said, i haven't had to do a sysex dump back to the virus yet, but it's only a matter of time before something happens and i want to get it right before it does.
any advice would be appreciated.
Message 2/8 07-Jan-04 @ 08:45 PM - RE: restoring
I don't think you're going to find anything that's intelligent enough to know when a patch you need is going to be overwritte, or that can re-patch the multis to compensate for where the singles are going.
What I do is this... I work out of the B bank when I'm creating new patches. When I've got things to the point where they're solid, I move them over to the A bank, and manually set up the multi to look in the proper place for patches. I usually do this in groups of songs, so I know I can blow away everything in the B bank.
What happens when I get so much stuff saved that I've got a full A-bank, or when my multis are all full? You're guess is as good as mine. Probably a lot of manual work, like what I had to go through to get the Virus set up for my current scheme the first time.
Sorry I can't give you a quick answer. If there is one, though, I'd love to hear it
-Craig
Message 3/8 07-Jan-04 @ 10:16 PM - RE: restoring
thanks for the reply craig.
"I don't think you're going to find anything that's intelligent enough to know when a patch you need is going to be overwritte, or that can re-patch the multis to compensate for where the singles are going."
thats not what i'm looking for, i just want to know whats going to happen when i do restore, like where my multis & sounds will end up & what it takes to get it back to the way it was before i backed up.
i'm also trying to fill my a bank with my sounds, once its full i'm going to write it to the h bank. once the multi's full, ummm..
for some reason i'm scared of using sound diver, but i guess i should look into it a bit.
Message 4/8 08-Jan-04 @ 03:21 PM - RE: restoring
So what you could do (if I'm right) is restore a single multi to the slot you want it to go to. Save it if necessary. Go to multi-single mode and for each channel, transmit the patch data to the Virus. When you save those singles from multi-single mode, the multi will be updated with the new location. Save the multi again when you're done and you should be all set.
Honestly, I never had to do any of the librarian type stuff.. I always just backed up the entire synth in case it died at a gig.
-Craig
Message 5/8 08-Jan-04 @ 06:17 PM - RE: restoring
I used to store just the multis for songs in cubase...and Ive never once had a sysex transfer problem
Message 6/8 08-Jan-04 @ 09:10 PM - RE: restoring
This is all from the Virus A manual, BTW.
-Craig
Message 7/8 13-Jan-04 @ 03:10 PM - RE: restoring
looks like one at a time. 14 songs times up to eight patches a song equals a lot of time & organizing. i didn't think how the multi's automatically update when you select a new patch, that'll help for sure.
Message 8/8 13-Jan-04 @ 04:50 PM - RE: restoring
-Craig
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