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Original Message 1/27             23-Jan-04  @  06:54 PM   -   fookin ell

steve

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say something then.



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Message 2/27             23-Jan-04  @  08:02 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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Who ? and what ?



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Message 3/27             23-Jan-04  @  11:48 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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thanks.



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Message 4/27             24-Jan-04  @  11:10 AM   -   RE: fookin ell

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catch



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Message 5/27             24-Jan-04  @  11:21 AM   -   RE: fookin ell

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does what it says on the box



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Message 6/27             30-Jan-04  @  11:42 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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....and well. I kinda like the fact that this particular forum isn't too full of problems and complaints, though admittedly, I'd like to see another OS update for the Q, myself.

Ape



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Message 7/27             09-Feb-04  @  11:01 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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well with waldorf being bought by TerraTec, we'll probably never see another waldorf
product ever....  



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Message 8/27             10-Feb-04  @  11:36 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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As I just read on the Waldorf User Forum, it seems that Waldorf declared bankruptcy a few days ago :-(



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Message 9/27             10-Feb-04  @  11:54 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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no more wonderful Waldorf tech?

Sad, that!

glad I got one... Waldorf synths will be prized in 10 years!

e



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Message 10/27             11-Feb-04  @  11:27 AM   -   RE: fookin ell

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are you bullshitting me? this cant be true



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Message 11/27             11-Feb-04  @  01:55 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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afraid so  

given past form though there's a good chance that a new company will rise from the ashes, can't imagine everyone at Waldorf will be entirely happy with being Terratec's bitch.



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Message 12/27             11-Feb-04  @  01:56 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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eek! well their website certainly seems dead enough...



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Message 13/27             12-Feb-04  @  12:43 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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sad eh... perhaps the rent on the castle got too much  

I spose that means Terretec cards appearing with onboard waldorf synths then

?



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Message 14/27             12-Feb-04  @  01:51 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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they already did that microwave pc thing didn't they? so I guess an updated, pci version will be in the offing... could be interesting as it'd be much easier to upload your own wavetables and there'd be a lot more memory for os updates, which supposedly ended up being a big problem with the xt.



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Message 15/27             12-Feb-04  @  04:49 PM     Edit: 12-Feb-04  |  04:49 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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teehee... i could really go for a Q on a card

and lol at k!



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Message 16/27             12-Feb-04  @  06:36 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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I heard that they are bankrupt because the cooperation deal with Terratec has been cancelled for whatever reasons.



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Message 17/27             12-Feb-04  @  07:33 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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Well, they did make nice bits of oddball kit... I think the problem is that the stuff cost too much... And the stuff that's cheap is confusing as a motherfucker compared to its competitors (am I the only one who hates the uQ/Attack "grid" style editing system?)...

I mean I'd have loved an XT, but not for $1100... I'd be all over a Q keyboard if it cost $1200-$1500.

I wonder if the development cost of the Q+ didn't have a big part to play...

-Craig



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Message 18/27             12-Feb-04  @  08:55 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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I like the grid of the micro q. I think it's intuitive... but then I like the grid on my Yamaha A3000 as well!

They had to invest a lot in R & D becaue they were interesting and better than the competition. None of this regurgitate the same synth for 10 years running like Korg and Roland... Hell even Novation (who I love) hasn't offered anything worth moving past the supernova for. Good synths, yeah, but not new... Waldorf made awesome sytnhs, improved their product line a few times (in the short time they were around, what was it??? 10 years???)

Love 'em to death

And like I said above, mark my words... Waldorf synths will be coveted in the years to come... Rememebr the Quasimidi Polymorph? Bad company, awesome synth, and the used market on those things his awesome.

e



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Message 19/27             12-Feb-04  @  10:05 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just saying that obviously the market for those synths were too small for a company to survive on. The Q+ in particular always fascinated me. It's so bloody expensive.. You can have a voyager or Andromeda for less money. And again, the Q keyboard costs $500 more than its competition.

Hopefully the stuff won't become too expensive on the secondhand market because I'd love a Q keyboard or an XTk.

-Craig



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Message 20/27             12-Feb-04  @  11:24 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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yeah... but Q used three times as much dsp as a virus, hence the price difference.

then again, supernova uses twice the dsp of the Q for its effects...

*shrug*



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Message 21/27             13-Feb-04  @  02:09 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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DSP Chips aren't all that expensive.... Hardware alone doesn't explain the price. There're other wierd (and probably more expensive) things too. Optical endless rotary encoders for one...

Hopefully someone will do a blowout sale of remaining stock, but I have a feeling there isn't any - Novamusik.com is already out of stock on Q keyboards



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Message 22/27             14-Feb-04  @  10:17 AM   -   RE: fookin ell

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no it's not expensive - remember that Korg OASYS debacle when dan was saying it cost so much cos of the dsp chips and I showed him they wer elike 5 bucks each

lol

ah - the good old days... for any DT noobs just do a search for OASYS and have a laugh - it takes some reading tho - it was a 4 part thread in which Dan, the Korg man accused me of all sorts of crap - and I exposed that he knew all along Korg were going to drop the price even while telling people to buy OASYS at the full retail price because they were NOT going to drop the price... What a liar he was!



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Message 23/27             14-Feb-04  @  06:40 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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I remember that... Another example of the be-all end-all card that went out of production in a year



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Message 24/27             14-Feb-04  @  06:51 PM   -   RE: fookin ell

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aight... i was just guessing why the price difference.

btw... saw a post from one of the waldorf guys over on kvr-vst. apparently they really went broke and the site is down beacuse of unpaid bills. they're trying to get it back up in order to make an official statement regarding the situation.

such pity...



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Message 25/27             20-Feb-04  @  01:33 PM   -   i hope its gonna be cool

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HI PEEPS I AM HOPING THAT WALDORF WONT DIE OUT ON US THEY MAKE FANTASTIC SYNTHS I HAVE 3 OF THE FAMILY .I HOPE WHO EVER IS GONNA RUN THE SHOW FOR WALDORF WILL DO IT RIGHT.WALDORF PROBABLY WENT BANKRUPT BECAUSE THERE PRODUCTION RATE WAS VERY SLOW WERE AS VIRUS SYNTHS ARE MASS PRODUCED I HAD PROBLEMS TRYING TO GET MY XT
EVERY WHERE I TRIED SAY NO THE XT HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF PRODUCTION TO HAVE THE FRONT PANEL RE DESIGNED FFS THERE AINT NOTHING WRONG WITH IT ANY WAY DUH?????

HOPEFULLY GUYS WHO EVER HAS BOUGHT THE COMPANY WILL KEEP ON WALDORFS ENGINEERS,DESIGNERS,AND STAFF.

IF SO THEN WELL ALL HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

CHEERS.



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Message 26/27             30-Mar-04  @  01:43 AM   -   RE: fookin ell

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die



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Message 27/27             30-Mar-04  @  03:47 AM   -   RE: fookin ell

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Wonder what's next. I TOLD those folks that the AFB would kill them. Sink them. They deserted their real market. It fucked them. Watch Dave Smith and learn.

Ape



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