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Subject: The Cheapskate post.
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Original Message 1/58 26-May-06 @ 04:01 AM - The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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P.S Feel free to hurl student abuse at me
Message 2/58 26-May-06 @ 10:28 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
mix it where?
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 3/58 26-May-06 @ 05:55 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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Message 4/58 26-May-06 @ 06:22 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Message 5/58 26-May-06 @ 06:51 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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Message 6/58 26-May-06 @ 07:31 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Just send me a private msg...
Message 7/58 26-May-06 @ 09:05 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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Message 8/58 26-May-06 @ 09:50 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 9/58 26-May-06 @ 11:52 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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Message 11/58 29-May-06 @ 11:42 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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Lloyd
Message 12/58 31-May-06 @ 05:36 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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Thanks very much once again
Lloyd
Message 13/58 31-May-06 @ 08:13 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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Message 15/58 31-May-06 @ 10:38 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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Message 17/58 03-Jun-06 @ 06:19 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
we're waiting..................................
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Message 18/58 04-Jun-06 @ 05:27 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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Cheers Very much
Lloyd
Message 19/58 04-Jun-06 @ 09:26 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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Message 20/58 04-Jun-06 @ 11:08 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 22/58 04-Jun-06 @ 09:34 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
thing is...if you cant MIX, how can you feel confident TRACKING a 5 piece band? You still have to be able to HEAR if things are going "to tape" properly
youve spent all this money, asked hundreds of questions, and have gotten seemingly nowhere? and...arent you going to school for this?
Im sorry but what gives? whats the holdup? whats keeping you from learning how to do this all correctly? THere's no fairy dust, no "shine" button...and nothing saying that YOU cant do it just as well as anyone else!
Message 23/58 05-Jun-06 @ 08:33 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
would look cool on a t-shirt
Message 24/58 05-Jun-06 @ 11:45 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Message 25/58 05-Jun-06 @ 12:21 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 26/58 05-Jun-06 @ 06:48 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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Message 27/58 05-Jun-06 @ 07:25 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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Er......Suck eggs Influx as per usual
Message 28/58 05-Jun-06 @ 08:29 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Message 29/58 05-Jun-06 @ 08:41 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 30/58 05-Jun-06 @ 10:28 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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drum drum drum *drums fingers waiting for files
Man I sent the files to the usual address: info@dancetech.com
then i sent them again when I got that first message about them.
I sent them from yousendit.com - you not received anything at all? I even sent other emails too.
Lloyd
Message 31/58 05-Jun-06 @ 10:32 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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have to say i got to agree with influx on this
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Could really do without this kinda hassle at the mo to be honest guys I know I dunno why I seem to get to everybody so much here but I really do have a lot of personal shit on my mind and could do without hassle from people that only know me through a website.
If there's nothing helpful to say and all that.
Lloyd
Message 32/58 05-Jun-06 @ 11:08 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley wrote:
Er......Suck eggs Influx as per usual
how could you be quoting someone? I didnt see anyone else telling me to suck eggs.
anyway...for years now youve been coming on here asking questions that were 5 steps ahead of the level you were at, in over your head with protools, software in general, and now mixing?
it sounds like Im being a dick, but Im just being honest (and Ive said NOTHING about you personally, so whether we're chums or not has zilch to do with it)
if you cant mix, you cant track. if you cant track, you cant mix. easy.
I somewhat suspect that maybe youre just a little too self-deprecating. its possible.
so...be defensive if you want, go right ahead, but realize I am right, and hopefully youll work out a solution yourself instead of trying to hand the work off to other people.
I hope you the results you got when tracking were good, though, because even the best mixer in the world cant fix bad recordings.
Message 33/58 05-Jun-06 @ 11:12 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
look, my point is that it just sounds like youre quite often way ahead of yourself, and that is NOT a good thing!
wasnt it you that did the wedding film or something for someone, and couldnt get the rendering right?
are you charging these people?
I say, in all sincerity with NO malicious intent whatsoever, that just maybe you should back up, and go over the basics just a bit more. get a little more solid foundation?
Message 34/58 06-Jun-06 @ 12:18 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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"Anyway...for years now youve been coming on here asking questions that were 5 steps ahead of the level you were at" - Yes that's me and its not a secret. I have looked at posts and cringed at some of the things I've said over the years, but one thing I have learned is that people are quick to think they know more than they do, me especially. Besides I personally think I've learnt a LOT from chucking myself in at the deep end. I think part fo the learning curve for people like myself is accepting that there's a LOT to know. However, even though it may aggrevate people on chat rooms/help forums (which should be somewhere you can ask for help when you dont know how to do something), from getting myself into the wedding video mess, I did actually learn how to make DVD's from start to finish in no more than a couple of weeks - something I would NEVER have done of my own accord had I had no pressure, and now its something I am interested in. I'm not trying to justify everything I have ever posted on here, or on any other forum for that matter. All I guess i'm trying to say is that whether you intended it personally or not, sometimes the way you say things can give off the impression that it is personal.
"are you charging these people?" - Take an educated guess at that one.
Just feels like I'm fighting a battle here.
Lloyd
Message 35/58 06-Jun-06 @ 12:18 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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how could you be quoting someone? I didnt see anyone else telling me to suck eggs.
SHIT SHIT always a mistake at the vital moment
Message 36/58 06-Jun-06 @ 12:56 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
as for the rest, it really seems to me, based on watching you here, that you rely way too much on being able to ask on forums, instead of reading manuals and learning for yourself.
me? I find that very, very annoying. Yes, Ive asked questions, and Ive asked some "stupid" questions, too...when I first got started I may have been a bit annoying, but then after a while, I took the initiative and became self-sufficient.
honestly I think its a generational thing. I suspect youre likely in your late teens/early twenties as people in this age group are often either incapable of full attention or unwilling to try.
either way, I doubt you'll change your ways based on comments some curmudgeon made on a website. But keep in mind that I wouldnt say anything if it wasnt a recurring theme.
Message 37/58 06-Jun-06 @ 01:06 AM Edit: 06-Jun-06 | 01:07 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Lloyd Duddley
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"either way, I doubt you'll change your ways based on comments some curmudgeon made on a website". No seriously man I do take this on board and always try to be aware of what I'm posting. I guess that I've always had results from forums. Where as trial and error usually ends up in me having to re-install Windows XP and everything else too. to me the logical thing seems to be to ask someone who knows. With a post like this, I seriously didn't think I was going to "annoy" anybody.
Anyways all part of the learning curve I guess.
Message 38/58 06-Jun-06 @ 02:23 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
anyways Lloyd, Influx don't mean nothing by it and he aint insulted you, but I can see his point man
Y'know I've see alot of people (my son included right now in fact), at 'tech' colleges, and yoyu get the vibe that they plunge people right in with eye candy SSL's and big digital boards, and lot's of top end stuff
I personaly think it's another symptom of modern shite life, that education like that has to be competitive
People with some grands to spare go to see various colleges or read the glossy brochures and also go to see some of them, etc..... Now, if they go to a place and they get a tour of the SSL room and the Pro-Tools suits, and the mastering room and lots of wizzo toys and really top-end gear, their perception is gonna be "This is REAL music tech, this is what I want to learn, I'll choose to give my 3,4,5 grand a year to this place"
If however, they arrived at a music tech college and they were shown a room full of people each using a stereo reel to reel and a 2 channel mixer, no fx, one mic and some guitars or whatever, and were told; "this is what you'll do for the first 3 months", they will walk right out the door & go to the place with a 4000 series bristling with lights
Now, the fact is, the latter is the one that'll REALLY teach them something valuable, and set the groundwork for what follows, and if what follows is pieced together methodicaly, bit by bit,... etc
It's a symptom of modern life imo that people are told they have 'choice'... and now it's also a choice in education... well if you know fuck-all about music tech recording etc how on earth can you make an informed 'choice' as to what is good for you to learn it?
The potential learner has no basis from which to make any such objective judgement at all.... If i might get a little 'teaching stuff' for a moment...
An illustration which best encapsulates this ideal is found in the classic story which pre-dates western contemporary psychological & educational study.
During the middle ages the Europeans believed that certain eastern 'Mystics' held the knowledge of turning base-metal into gold (Alchemy).
In reality, the 'Alchemy' the Masters were referring to was actually the transmutation of the human individual from a 'raw' state into a state of consciousness and 'readiness' for true objective learning.
In the story, a young man approaches a Master and begs to be taught the secret of turning base-metal into gold.
The master agrees to take the lad on as an apprentice, and on a daily basis the young man attends the Master's house and badgers him daily: "When will you teach me the secret?.. Will it be today?"
To each such request the master simply replies; "yes yes!... but first I need you to do such & such a task"; upon which the Master would prescribe some apparently menial task or inconsequential study to the lad for him to perform that day.
Time passed, and every day without fail the young man would ask when he was to be taught the secret, and the master would simply prescribe yet another apparently meaningless task to the boy.
Eventually after several years the master approached the lad while he was at his work-desk involved in one of the study tasks assigned to him and said:
"Right!... I'm ready to show you the secret today, let's do it!"
The young man replied without even looking up from his desk; "Not now, I'm busy"
This story illustrates the ideal state of the learner which we should as teachers strive to assist in achieving. Involved in their task/study, with concentration and without subjective evaluations as to the merit of the material in terms of purely goal-driven SUBJECTIVE value judgments; such an individual has 'learned how to learn', and can move forward in life with an enquiring objective & positive attitude which will allow them to take best advantage of all situations and knowledge made available to them.
er... or something like that i think is what it means
But really, my kid for example is being swamped as far as i can tell with lousy tasks for which he simply is not prepared.... ok, he learns something each time, but the problem is he's not sure what he's learning cos there's too many variables presented at once. They are fucking around with big digital desks and yet he doesnt know busses or routing theory at all. They are supposed to do a mix, but he hasn't been taught gating or compression at all from what i could gather, I would say he doesnt know the basic definition of compression & what it is factualy... also no lessons were given in mic-ing a kit as far as i could tell prior to having to record a band.
anyways, If i had a music tech college that's what the students would start with, no flashy stuff, just a 2 track and they can spend 3 months making tracks in mono bouncing left to right channel and adding an overdub each time - it teaches you about the absolute basis of multitracking, it teaches you alot about frequencies inherent in each type of sound from an acoustic guitar to a vocal to a drumbox, it teaches you about making descisions in a production or mix because they cant be changed later, it teaches you TONS about routing and signal flow patterns
Lloyd man, the reality is like being a good cabinet maker or whatever, it takes time man, lots of time, don't worry man.
Influx, I dont think it's his fault, it's what he's been thrown into, this is how colleges are now cos it's a competitive industry with colleges vying for peoples grants and savings, and sadly most students come out with some fun expriences getting to use high-end gear, but with not much ground level stuff. So they come out with some hands on time with an SSL or whatever, and mebbe can get a basic mix together on it, but that's more simply like learning keystrokes, like learning an AKAI sampler OS... it allows you to go to a place that needs a person who can operate an AKAI sampler, but does that make them good at sampling?
So mebbe they can get a junior position in a company cos they did a course which included hands on time with a Sony board or whatever, but personaly i'd do it differently.
Lloyd man, don't worry too much about this particular mix, we've all got mixes & recordings going back in time and can pull them out once in a while and enjoy & re-live the experience in our minds again and again ("OMG!!!... Did I REALLY add that much reverb!!", lol).... I guess a mix/recording is like a painting in that it's never ever really finished, only abandoned
In contemporary music, give 10 top remixers or producers the same tape and they'll all mix it totaly differently... so which is the 'right' mix?
There isn't one in reality, and the example of 10 remixers proves that beyond any argument, that's the bottom line, songs/mixes/production either have personality & character or they dont, that's all you can say really, cos in reality if you do a track using 2 old cassette decks, and a small mixer, bouncing from one cassette deck to the other and adding a new 'part' to the mix each time, and then you do another song using a dig 24 track and a good board and outboard... well if they both have character and personality then neither is 'better'
I worked for a while with a guy wh'd come out of a Polydor band called EDEN which was Polydor's tip to take on bands like Spandau Ballet or Duran Duran or whoever, but with their own particular angle, but that market anyways, The did I think one Album or mebbe even it was just one track or session, (not sure, but it couldn't have been more than one album if at all cos they didnt take off or something or were dropped) - Anyways, stories are stories so this is secondhand, apparently Hugh Padgam was called in, and the band had an idea which they were quite adamant about, that they wanted a very sparse open empty sound. Anyways this guy was highly scathing of Padham, saying he spent almost the entire time lying under the mixer complaining of a bad back, and didn't want the sound they wanted at all, and they fell out... he then went on to his next thing which was producing the Police - open sparse, empty... lol, well who knows eh?... one could argue the Police were a 3 piece live and they just went for that sound... talk is talk anyways, who knows if that story is true and if it is, wether if they hadn't met Padgam would still have done hardly any overdubs and filled the stuff out with the Police. The point is if the story is true, in one session he was fighting doing a totaly sparse sound as being 'not right', in the other it becomes an iconic sound cos it is so different and not usual... odd dilema eh
there's also that creative mixing combined with the production and writing as an entity and of course stuff like The Beatles (from around Revolver onwards), and Prince and Buddy Holly, & The Beach Boys etc stand out as landmarks in recording pop history imo cos they were written/produced/mixed as more of an organic creative process with the producer being in the band and also a writer (with the beatles George martin was 'in the band' to all intents and purposes)... it's about all of the 3 (written/produced/mixed) always interacting with the other, rather than a 'recording' of a performance... that's a whole other thing.
I was with a management company at one time who also handled the guy who produced Tracy Chapman's first album, he said basicaly they setup the mic's, hit record and he went down the pub and came back later when they finished playing, lol...an exaggeration no doubt, but it sounds like that eh?... and that's it's outstanding 'production' feature. Still, for an ability to record a band clean and clear and with no fiddling and tricks, country style, i think you'll agree at something like 3 points commission as producer, that's quite a tidy sum if you check how many copies that album sold. I think he'd made like 2 mill or something at the time which was about 2 years after the release or so.
anyways the point is, it's all different, and going to music-tech college perhaps doesnt emphasis this and is more technician-training geared, that's not to say they don't do creative work & have fun, but y'know
if however you are doing recording from the point of view of getting a job in 'industry', then you're more of a technician in a way, other criteria apply, but hey, some people find the life they truly love as a sound recordist for wildlife documentaries... each to their own, it's a big feild with many avenues, beyond recording contemporary music.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 39/58 06-Jun-06 @ 02:24 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Where as trial and error usually ends up in me having to re-install Windows XP and everything else too
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 41/58 06-Jun-06 @ 12:40 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
sheesh, but it's mebbe relevent to Lloyd i think, of course we could just go on posting monosylabic grunts
"Yo!"
"Sup?"
"etc"
zzzzzzzz - what happened to actual discussion beyond one liners?
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 43/58 06-Jun-06 @ 01:28 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
hey Lloyd, I got one file sent which was a raw unprocessed ruff mix, tbh the playing aint great, also I saw the mic list which was decent even if i'd have chosen different mics myself, and therefore the snare musthave been quite crappy by the sound of it... tbh not great playing either, the timing is well scrappy, but that can be fixed of course... so are we getting the multitrack individual files?
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 44/58 06-Jun-06 @ 06:41 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
are you going to make the files available for those of us who are willing to mix? What's the delay?
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Message 45/58 06-Jun-06 @ 06:58 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
lloyd...kilo pointed out what I guess I was getting at. The way things are going is NOT a good way. Not in music production, and not in life/society in general. Everyone wants quick fixes, and wants to get right to the finished product.
hey k...if you ran that school with a 2 track and some cans, Id sign up right away! would be fun!
Message 46/58 06-Jun-06 @ 07:38 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
anyway... i DID do 1/4" tape for for first few months of my education heheheh
Message 47/58 07-Jun-06 @ 01:54 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Tascam 4-track cassette 20 yrs ago, then a Mirage sampler...deckchairs for kicks, bash-hat visors for snares, hot-knives for hi hats (jumpers for goalposts?)
I remember staying up all night learning how to lace-up a 24-track Otari from a book because I'd suggested I could do it to get a job at Berwick Street Studios. (so sympathies Lloyd, though I did get the job)
Then I learnt to calibrate them. 15 fiddly little screws per track. Anything to get access to the gear during downtime. The first time I tried to set up the studio I turned up the master fader and created a howling feedback. The owner just unplugged everything and told me to start again. I still think he was a bit of a shit for not explaining the correct proceedure to me but I do now get his point.
Hell, it's only 4 yrs since I packed the Atari away and went for the PC!
And you've got a point K. I've just ended four years as a music & Audio teacher for an FE college. I remember being reprimanded with my colleague because a student had achieved a distinction in his ABRSM grade! The 'head of learning' said we were wasting resources as we could have got two students to merely pass in the same time! Quality is determined by the number of accreditations passed, not by any wishy-washy liberal pinko 'depth of learning' malarkey. Evaluating exam passes is easy, they just need counting up. Evaluating the creative process is a little harder, so it's best just to ignore it.
Anyone remember Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance? I mentioned that book to my CirtEd tutor during a discussion about quality and I thought he was going to kiss me! The look of joy and pity in his eyes was unsettling.
Modern education is a business, customers (not students) attend the required number of days and submitt the required number of assignments and the college will bend over backwards to award the qualification because they get money for the number passed.
Anyway, I'm not interested in mixing your stuff Lloyd, but I am now curious to hear the results...
Message 48/58 07-Jun-06 @ 09:31 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
Message 49/58 07-Jun-06 @ 12:10 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
anyways i guess we'll have to do some videos on this.... *sigh*
btw, our resident loony was sectioned yesterday!!... I went out for a pint to celebrate cos it's on the cards he's going to be booted out permenently
he made the fatal mistake that he started to also agress & harrass the new couple downstairs, he spent the afternoon on the day before yesterday shouting stuff about her baby thru the corridors outside her door while the husband was at work... The days before he was out in the hallways in the middle of the night screaming that he was going to pour boiling water on people & cut peoples throats etc, kinda scary if you live next door with a new born baby and the only way in or out of your place is to walk thru a dead-end lower-stairwell area at the bottom of 8 steps with no quick way out with a pram containing a newly born baby. Poor woman was distraught and her hubby had to come home from work early cos she was so shaky.
Apparentlly, it was quite a picture, i wish i could have it on video - They called the old bill who turned up later in the evening (they had already had been round a few days before when he was out screeching in the corridors at 3 in the morning), so, imagine the scene... their front-door and the llony's front door are like 1 ft apart at the bottom of this stairwell.... the Police are inside the couple's flat listening to some audio recordings of the guy harrasing & threatening the wife that afternoon... the loony guy next door not knowing the Police were in the next door flat comes out into the hall and starts screaming threats... suddenly the next door flat door opens, 2 Police jump out and handcuff him... lol, I dearly wish i'd seen that!, lol
For those who dont know, if you wonder why DT slipped since 2001 in terms of adding articles etc, that's when this guy moved in, and trust me, it's been a fucking massive nightmare... I had to sleep away from the flat on an average 3-4 night PER WEEK for the frst year, and it's gone on unabated since then.. they keep carting the guy away but the fucking social workers keep letting him back out again
It's been a massive problem getting work done for the last 5 years. You want to do video's? or write articles etc for the site?... oh right, no!!, cos there's fucking music and shouting blasting thru the walls and corridors all the time.
I've had so many standoff's with the guy cos everyone else is shit scared of him, I even flipped out one night and chased the bastard down the road to kick his fucking teeth in. Same old shit, he's shouting and threatening me outside in the street when I'm coming home, and I'd had a few pints & just lost it and went for him, he ran away of course & managed to dodge thru an open security door which self-locked behind him and by the time I got me keys out he'd scuttled into his flat and locked himself in
Anyways now we're preparing a joint legal action againts the council, social services, the landlords and the west london mental health trust... bunch of cunts the lot of them. Worst of all and most unbeleiveably we discovered during some joint digging recently that this guy did the exact same thing in the previous tenancy across the courtyard in the other block, the neighbours threatened to kill him & beat the shit out of him, and the fucking council moved him in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fucking social workers man, i'd round the bastards all up and throw them in a special estate with only mental-case aggro chavs as neighbours.. see how they like it!, bunch of hand-wringing liberal tossers who have no concept of reality.
Anyways, mebbe now, we can get back to reality, the old bill called up the neighbours and said they want to push for him to be booted out permenently. However, what we're concerned aboiut is that the sneaky social workers will do the same again and put him somewhere else to destroy a whole new bunch of people's lives - In this block alone one person's had to move out of their home, 2 people have lost their jobs and 2 are on medication.
thanks social workers, good job! and it's only cost the taxpayer around a 1/2 million quid in legal fee's, council and health trust time, social security payments, admin costs etc etc over more than 5 flipping years of this
here's an example of the wanker in action at 3am & in the afternoon about the baby:
mad bloke remix
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 50/58 07-Jun-06 @ 12:38 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
mental hospitals used to be full of people like him.
Message 51/58 07-Jun-06 @ 12:48 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 52/58 07-Jun-06 @ 06:32 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
and yeah, k, don't you think there's a bit too much reverb on the first recording?
Message 54/58 07-Jun-06 @ 07:59 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 55/58 01-Jul-06 @ 02:09 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 56/58 10-Jul-06 @ 07:56 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
chilled out or headphoned things at night and even got to know neighbours so a safe time to
have volume can be achieved, but its ironic when u are quiet and its your neighbour thats noisey
and your thinking god iam a quarter of your volume and your listning to talk fucking radio through
a set of speakers big enough to get inside and producing 30 hz rumbles of james whale through
the building, made me want to hire a 10,000 watt pa, point the speaker face down at talk radio
neighbour and play all my music only using sine wave test tones through a sub bass generator
just for a laugh , but hey we eventually moved, great posts here though.
Malk
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"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S.Thompson -
Message 57/58 10-Jul-06 @ 11:56 PM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
k wrote:
so Lloyd man, whats happened to this... are we going to get some files to mix or what?
after all that, nothing?
hilarious
Message 58/58 11-Jul-06 @ 08:45 AM - RE: The Cheapskate post.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
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