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Original Message 1/8 10-Sep-07 @ 01:13 PM - Basic Compression

joegornall

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Hi,

Following the guidelines in the articles section on compression settings, Im a bit unsure on the release settings as its in seconds rather than ms. So it says for example release 0.2 secs which is 200ms. Im just checking this is correct as Ive seen other guidelines that say (for a similar example) 10ms release. All the other suggested settings for attack, threshold and ratio are similar which is why Im asking as the release settings are totally different. Just that I thought release settings should be pretty fast?

Thanks

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Message 2/8 14-Sep-07 @ 12:39 AM Edit: 14-Sep-07 | 12:44 AM - RE: Basic Compression

joegornall

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Do you guys adjust the release setting purely by ear? Im finding it really hard to tell any difference at the mo with the compressor on the kick drum between a 20 ms release and a 200ms release.

Does it depend on how long the sample is etc?

Also, what is regarded as a fast release?

Any help appreciated,

Joe

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Message 3/8 14-Sep-07 @ 12:39 AM Edit: 14-Sep-07 | 12:41 AM - RE: Basic Compression

joegornall

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I accidentally pressed submit msg twice sorry!

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Message 4/8 14-Sep-07 @ 12:55 AM - RE: Basic Compression

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joegornall@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Do you guys adjust the release setting purely by ear? Im finding it really hard to tell any difference at the mo with the compressor on the kick drum between a 20 ms release and a 200ms release.

thats cos the drum sample will have a hold/decay time shorter than that probably (when asking about 200ms....

as for 20ms, well that depends... if the compressor is set more radicaly then adjusting the decay wil be noticeable

what comp is it?....

you know what is good... just f*ck with it man... rack up the compression ratio to a high value and make it so you really hear what it's doing, THEN mess with the release.... see what it does

now. to give you an example of what release CAN do, get a handclap sample, something with a good 'crack'.... turn up the compression ratio high, like 20:1... now, with the clap in a simple 4-on-the-floor house type beat, mess with the attack AND release and try and get the clap to do an 'echo' compression type effect, that means that after the actual 'CLAP' sound is triggered, it surges back almost like a reverse reverb effect so it goes... "clap-aaaap"! (so to speak/spell)

after the initial clap the clap then does a sort of second 'whooshing' clap - hard to describe but you'll hear it if you get it

anyways ask stuff... i'll try and help .. compression is a great subject... we'll have to add some video's on it tbh

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Message 5/8 14-Sep-07 @ 11:34 AM - RE: Basic Compression

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Cool, yeah I got it thanks, had to put the threshold waaay down to about -35/40dbs to get it really really apparant.

Im only messing around with the effects within guru at the moment but thats given a good idea of whats going on.

Some vids would be fantastic!

Thanks for your help

Joe

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Message 6/8 14-Sep-07 @ 05:13 PM - RE: Basic Compression

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i never looked even at guru... it's a drumbox plugin innit?

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Message 7/8 16-Sep-07 @ 09:44 PM - RE: Basic Compression

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Yeah it is a plugin but you can use it standalone aswell. Its really good. Theres a free demo download available, the full version is �99 I think which is cheaper than Battery and DR008.

I tell you what, Id pay a tenner or more for a vid on someone just going through detailed compression settings tips etc of various parts of a dance mix and I bet others would too! Its surprizing how much you can learn just by watching others. It seems like a difficult technique to master (compression I mean), probably OK to sound alright but difficult to get to a top level. After all, when we talk about a track that sounds 'professional' we're talking mainly about the mix I guess which compression plays a huge role, especially in hard dance/trance etc.

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Message 8/8 17-Sep-07 @ 11:56 AM - RE: Basic Compression

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yeah, agreed, and we're gonna do that after the new site is released... but that has to bwe done first

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