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Original Message 1/12 16-Sep-97 @ 07:08 AM - Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

Edinak

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Is there any reason to get a Roland R8 drum machine if you already have a R8M drum module. Does anybody use the preprogramed beats on a drum machine or would that be considered amateur because you really didn't create the beat as you would if you had the R8M which only has drum hit samples, no preprogramed beats. I am personally sort of anti-drum loop samples just because I like knowing that I created everything but I do hear alot of cool beats that I assume have been sampled. What is the general feeling about what is legitimate. Does anybody know of any videos for sale dealing with creating dance beats using samples, drum machines, drum modules and whatever means necessary. Please excuse my run-on bad English. But hopefully somebody will understand what I am getting at.

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Message 2/12 16-Sep-97 @ 07:29 AM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

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Now before someone (I wont say who) advises you to download Hammerhead, I'd just like to say that you should be able to get some alright stuff happening with the R8m and a sequencer. Although it would be almost impossible to get a sound from the r8m that sounds like a live drum loop, I'm sure you'd be able to get some fat grooves out of it nonetheless. Just mess about with the tuning, decay, and nuances while you've got a beat playing and before long you should come up with a decent sound providing the drum pattern kicks.

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Message 3/12 16-Sep-97 @ 08:33 AM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

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How do you get that dirty drum sound that you hear on
all the house-albums?
It sounds kinda like a messed up 909 (especially the hats).
I've heard that a EMU SP-12 or a AKAI MPC-60 messes up
the beats pretty bad because of their 12-bit sampling.
These, however ,especially the SP-12, costs a fortune.
Can I achive that dirty sound with some pc-program, or
some ol' AKAI sampler, or something.
I've tried to make my own jungle loops from scratch, but
this sounds really awful!
Please help me out.

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Message 4/12 16-Sep-97 @ 11:49 AM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

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An old S900 Akai will give you THAT sound. You'll just need to adjust the envelopes a bit to get the drums sounding real tight, and so you don't hear the 12bit noise as the sample decays. 808 kicks sound awesome from an S900.

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Message 5/12 16-Sep-97 @ 03:43 PM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

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Will a s950 do the trick?

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Message 6/12 16-Sep-97 @ 08:06 PM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

S-bear

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hey, the roland s-330 is also 12-bit. 2 mb is max, 8 outputs, adsr filter and volyme, resonant filter and a monitor and mouse!
(and its pretty cheap too

Bj�rn

Kilo by the way, where do you live and what equipment do you use.
im not gonna rob ya mate, just whant to know what country n stuff

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Message 7/12 17-Sep-97 @ 01:43 PM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

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I don't think that 12-bits samplers will give a dirty
house sound. I think some of em' do.

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Message 8/12 17-Sep-97 @ 05:21 PM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

Kilo

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well, In London.......kit list....oh bloody hell ...hang about.........

.........aha..........right.....

Atari 1040 3rd party monitor & Cubase
Casio midi thru box 2 in 8 out
Yamaha midi thru box 2 in 8 out
Yamaha MDF2 midi data filer
Kurzwiel K2000
E-mu Emax 1 ( X2 )
Roland R8
Alesis SR16
Lynex Sampler ( X2 )
Yamaha DX100 keyboard
Yamaha TX81Z module
Novation Basstation keyboard
Control Synthesis Deep Bass 9
Roland MKS30 Planet S module
PG 200 Programmer module
Octave Kat synth
Korg Wavestation SR rack synth
Chase "Trilogy" synth
Korg S-700 (Mini-Korg)
Roland SH-2000
Alesis Adat
Fostex A2 stereo 2 track
Denon DTR 2000G 20 bit DAT
Denon and Aiwa 3 head cassettes
Philips portable DCC
SECK 18-8-2 mixer
SECK 12-8-2 mixer
BOSS 6-2 mini-mixer
Korg DDD dual digital delay
Yamaha D1500 digital delay
Symetrix mono compressor
Drawmer LX20 stereo compressor
Vesta Kozo dual gate
Alesis stereo compressor
Barcus Berry Sonic Maximiser
MXR single 31 band graphic
Korg 4 channel rack eq/compressor/compander
Alesis Microverb 1
Alesis Quadraverb 1
Pentium 100 48 mb ram, 2.1 Quantum Fireball....1.1 Fujitsu....2.5 WD Caviar hard drives
Pentium 100 24 mb ram, 1080 Quantum Fireball drive.
SAW Plus 16 track
Cakewalk Pro Audio V5.1
Samplitude Studio
Samplitude Pro
SAW 4 track
Soundforge 3 & 4
Re-Sample Pro
Cubase V2,8
XG Edit
Wave for Windows
2 X Turtle Beach Tahiti soundcards
DAL Digital Only Card D
Turtle Beach TBS2000
Yamaha DB50 XG Daughterboard.
Fender & Landola Guitars
Aria "Thorsound" Bass (You can't beat a bit of real bass on a track)
Mackensie 200w Bass Head
Marshall Combo
Australian Didge (used on quite a few tracks)
Djembe and LP Bongos

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Message 9/12 17-Sep-97 @ 07:46 PM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

Kilo

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just testing the PHYSICAL WRAP I've added to this fill in box.....now when you type, the box automatically performs a word-wrap........cool huh?

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Message 10/12 18-Sep-97 @ 09:42 AM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

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Ok...........

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Message 11/12 06-Oct-97 @ 09:46 AM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

bram

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Just wait for the B.BoX to be released...
(somewhere around X-mas) This will be the
HammerHead killa. The easiest drumsoftware
ever made. No unwanted features, just rapid
productivity...

Make something cool in 10 seconds !
Rave your neighbours in a minute...

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Message 12/12 06-Oct-97 @ 11:55 AM - RE: Drum Machine vs. Drum Sound Module

Kilo

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I love that bit above, where the guy is talking about adjusting the drum envelopes so you dont here the noise on the decay of the samples......... Bram...... you should have signed your programme with Kilo mate.......... !!!!!

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