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Roland MKS-30





The MKS-30 was the 1984 released 2U-rack vesion of the JX-3P & like the JX-3P can be used with the PG-200 programmer.  

One of the first mass-appeal digital DCO synths Roland released was the JX-3P, and the MKS-30 Planet-S is basically the rack version. The PG-200 control unit is essential to get as an add-on, and naturally works with both the Planet S, and the JX-3P.

 

The MKS-30 is obviously the same 2 oscillator polysynth as the JX-3P. Each Osc' has choice of Square, Saw and Pulse wave. Oscillator 2 also offers Noise, Tune & Fine-Tune. Each oscillator has three octaves of range (4',. 8', 16'), with 8' being standard.

 

Each Osc' can be switched to Frequency Modulation with choice of LFO or Envelope, and there is also a Cross-Modulation option with Sync or 'Metal' which is Ring modulation.

 

The MKS Envelope Modulation choices are Inverted or Normal envelope mode, and the LFO offers Sine Square or Random waves, Delay-time & Rate.

 

On to the Filter section: This has Source mix, a High-Pass filter control, with Cut-off & Frequency, as well as Depth setting controls for Envelope Modulation & LFO Mod'. Again, the envelope here can be inverted.

 

Finally the VCA has a Level Control as well as a Mode switch, selectable between Envelope, where it is assigned to the 4 stage Envelope control section, or Gate mode. There is also a Pitch Follow control and finally as a finishing touch, a built in Chorus with On/Off switch.

 

 

The MKS-30 has MIDI, accepts velocity, channel and pitch & wheel & pedal data. It has a simple 2 character LED readout for patch & bank positions, and cursor buttons for data scrolling.  Also on the front is a Master Tune and 'Brilliance' control, a slot for a plug-in data cart, the socket for the programmer unit's lead, and a useful MIDI Message LED to let you know the signal is getting there.

 

Round the back, the unit has a stereo out in the form of 2 x 1/4" jacks for the stereo chorus which can be added in the edit menu and MIDI IN and THRU, plus a 3 way output volume switch.

 

In edit mode, the synth sections are assigned numbers on the LED screen: 41 = Oscillator-1 Tune. - 16 = Filter Cut-off etc. Punch the number for a value, then edit the value using the cursor buttons.

 

The LED display can be scrolled numerically up and down to adjust single parameters at a time, you then switch to the next parameter etc etc, and save it in any of the units 64 locations which are devided into 8 Banks x 8 patch locations. You can also add a plug-in data cartridges for further 64 saves.

 

 

The PG-300 programmer

 

 

 

Due to the 'Choose 'n' Edit' cursor method, the MKS alone obviously cannot perform real time control changes on a track other than envelope, LFO, wheel or pedal assignments, so the trusty PG-200 comes to the rescue, looking like some techno hedgehog. Once you get this baby, the MKS really comes to life.

 

The PG-200 is about 9" x 6", and connects with  very short cable. It also has 2 magnetic strips underneath so that when you sit the programmer on top of the flat blank metal case top of the keyboard version JX3-P, it sticks. When using the PG-200 with the MKS-30 however these magnetic strips are not useable & the cable is never long enough to reach to any flat worksurface in most studio situations. For that, ideally you need a longer cable, as the unit will be in a rack, and the controller is desktop. Therefore when using the PG-200 with the MKS-30 you tend to leave a gap in the rack and place the PG programmer between the MKS-30 and some other item of gear in the rack. Not ideal.

 

 







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Added: 13 December 1998
New price: discontinued
S/H price: £1000 - £1500
Company:  ROLAND UK

This product is part of
Roland's
Juno series



Roland's Juno series were the last analog synths made by the company before they switched to sample digital synthesis. All Juno synths used Digitally Controlled Oscillators (DCO's), starting with the 1982 6-voice Juno-6 with built-in chorus effect. Roland followed on with the updated Juno-60 released less than a year later also in 1982, which was essentially the Juno-6 but with the ability for the user to store 56 patches to memory, something the Juno-6 had lacked, however the Juno-60 still didn't have MIDi which came in just a year later in 1983.

 

After releasing one final VCO analog synth - the Jupiter-6 which had basic MIDI specs - Roland released the Juno-106 which still sported front-panel Jupiter-style slider controls for key parameters but was a DCO synthesiser.

 

So to be 100% accurate they were the only three Juno synths - The Juno-6, Juno-60 & Juno-106 - All three were DCO synths and all three offer traditional front-panel Jupiter-style slider controls for the main synth parameters. 

 

Expanding the Juno series

For the sake of creating clarity & order for beginners trying to make sense of Roland's early synthesiser output, we are going to list the 'Juno' Series as all of the final 100% analog Roland synths made by Roland up until they stopped making analog synths and switched to sample digital synths with the D-50.

 

All these Roland synthesisers are titled Juno or have a J prefix. None of them used non-digitally controlled VCO's like the Jupiter Series. Apart from the Juno-106 they all used membrane switches on the front-panel, discarding the traditional knobs & sliders to edit & control sounds. They all used DCO oscillators.

 

If we organise Roland Juno & J-prefix series synthesisers like that, then the Juno Series after the Juno-6 & Juno-60 will also include the JX-3P, the Alpha Juno 1 & 2 - both fully analog synths with DCO's - and the final analog DCO flagship JX-8P  and its follow-up JX-10 or 'Super JX'.

 

The MKS rack versions

You could also include the rack version of the keyboard versions in the Juno Series too. The MKS-30, MKS-50 & final MKS-70 rack version of the JX-10 Super JX.

 

The SynthPlus home-keyboard versions

One can also include in the Juno Series the related & rare home-keyboard versions of the Juno-106 and the Alpha Juno 1 & Alpha Juno 2, which are the SynthPlus 60 (HS-60), the SynthPlus 10 (HS-10) & the SynthPlus 80 (HS-80) respectively - Roland do not list these three SynthPlus synths on their own Roland History blog page, but they have identical synthesiser engines & full MIDI specs the same as the Juno units they are based on.

 

 

 

We have therefore organised the 'Juno' synths this way on Dancetech so that visitors can see in one collection, all the final 100% analog DCO synths Roland made, all listed together in an easy to understand way.

 

The Juno Series sounded the final hurrah for Roland analog synths. Roland moved on to release their proprietery sample synthesis engine they called Linear Arithmatic Synthesis (or LA Synthesis), beginning with their groundbreaking flagship D-50 synth in 1987, and then on to physical modelling & analog modelling in various forms, never to return to making a real analog synth again apart from one Boutique series synth jointly made by Roland and the American company Studio Electronics.

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Kilo

19-Jan-99

Commonly available & cheap early Roland DCO synth with dedicated Controller unit


Mindspawn

19-Jan-99

Haven't tried the MKS-30, but your RA tracks really rock. Excellent stuff!


nimanda

19-Jan-99

if ya get it for 250 its a great buy , but this toy is not my thing!.......... Ð I would maybe get it just to show of on a gig coos it looks sooo funky !!...... Ð


J.Austin

19-Jan-99

Well, unless I'm mistaken, one omission was made, while using the Jx-3P or Mks30 in midi mode, realtime tweaking of the pg200 is not supported...its sounds are alot like a juno106's without the sub osc IMHO... a good synth to have as they have midi and are cheaper than alot of others with the same features.


kilo

19-Jan-99

sory.......you're wrong...... You can adjust all ther parameters whenm playing back via midi....but..... as I said in the review, the controls dont respond to or send midi data.....but you can twiddle away happily in real time and record the results either to the final stereo mix, or to sampler or hard disk to create a loop...


J.austin

19-Jan-99

Interesting... well, I guess the midi implemention is different between the JX-3P and MKS-30 'cos when I send midi data to my jx-3p it has to be in midi mode, which defeats programmer mode i.e. you can't do both at the same time... BUT you can twiddle in real time without midi.


kilo

19-Jan-99

er.......that's wierd, cos the midi mode, doesnt exist on the mks, you simply set a midi channel, and that is that.... editing from the controller is unaffected by incoming note or other data....


J.Austin

19-Jan-99

I would definately recommend the mks over the JX-3p then(assuming you don't need the keyboard) because it also always starts up in omni mode, and the only way to get it out is to plug a midi cord from in to out and power up while holding down 6 or more keys( a real pain in the ass!) then its set to midi channel one only... you can use an anatek pocket filter, but I haven't really had a need for this board for a while...


Ted Stahl

19-Jan-99

Great to see someone praising this often overlooked module! I've had the MKS-30 for over a decade now and it will always have a special place in my mixes.



Regarding the comments about MIDI implimentation and realtime control, the JX-3P is not setup to function the same way. The Planet-S responds to realtime control no matter what. It doesn't have a separate MIDI mode because the only way it can be triggered is via MIDI.



Another difference between the two is the ability to respond to velocity. The MKS-30 has this ability while the JX-3P does not.



On the other hand, there is one thing that the Planet-S lacks that the JX-3P has -- a MIDI OUT jack. If memory serves me correctly, the MKS-30 was one of the very first MIDI modules that Roland released and they couldn't imagine why one would ever need to transmit MIDI data from a rack unit. All it was required to do was respond to incoming MIDI signals. This is all well-and-good if you never intend to use the module in conjunction with an editor/librarian. Because of this, the only way to back up sounds with the MKS-30 is to keep an archive of cartridges or write down the knob positions on the PG-200.



However, if you can afford to buy both instruments, you can take the cartridges upon which you've saved your MKS-30 patches and plug them into the JX-3P. At that point, you can access them and back them up to an editor/librarian because the JX-3P has a MIDI OUT.



In spite of this lack of foresight on Roland's part, the functionality of the Planet-S within a MIDI studio is far superior to that of the JX-3P and I would reccomend it to anyone who would like to experiment with a dual DCO-based synth that generates a digitally-flavored form of analog. By all means, get the PG-200! It makes this unit a pleasure to use.



F.Y.I. I have a reference to it on my "Music Tools" page on my website with a couple of RealAudio examples. In fact, I have audio snippets of virtually all of the synths in my setup on that page. If you're interested, by all means drop by and check it out!



The Page is: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/6190/mtools.html



Though my page can't hold a candle to Kilo's (WONDERFUL RESOURCE!!!) I'd love any feedback you can offer. Thanks and never stop savoring this ability we have to electronically sculpt sound through synthesis!


Silvio Almeida

19-Jan-99

Hi!



I do own a MKS-30 without the PG-200 :-(

and i just love it!

Would advise anyone into buying it.

Anyway i m not thinking about selling it and

i do think its not that easy to find one!

But all is not lost cause Synths like the

"Nord Lead" keep tha Heritage...:-)))))

So if you have the money... go get one quickly

before they become a legend. ehehehe;-)

I do believe that the MKS will not "feel"

rejected for beeing replaced.



Old Synth Rulez as "Nord" does!!!!



Peace!



Silvio Almeida

WM Studio

PORTUGAL


T.G.NOYES

19-Jan-99

I don't own a MKS-30 or JX3P, but I do own the one other roland synth that shares the same architecture and uses the PG-200.....the GR700 Guitar Synthesizer! Used along with the PG it's an awesome setup for real-time sound creation. I actually still use it live in conjunction with other rack mount synths to perform improvised ambient soundscapes when I perform. My big drawback is the GR-700 has only MIDI out, no in or through, and after searching all over for a mod that was once available to add MIDI in, I was turned on to the fact that the MKS30 would be the ticket, so now I'm patiently waiting for a used one to present itself to me at the right price.


Antoine Palade

19-Jan-99

One great way to get filthy bass sounds using the MKS30

AND the DX7/TX7 ( duh!.... ) is to get a "sine-wavy",

dubby-kind -of sound from the MKS30 ( it will have the

roundness and bottom-end ), layer it with a "wood bass"

kind-of-sound from the DX/TX ( it will have the attack,which the MKS30 is not very good at ), AND finally pan each hard-left

and hard-right! Unconventional,yes, but try it!


Black-Man

19-Jan-99

I bought one (JX-3P) when they came out in '83. Heavy use over the years and never any problem.



Transparent pads, easy to program, but doesn't take long to reach the machine's limitations. DCO's suck, filters nice. PG-200 MANDATORY.


RAMON

19-Jan-99

Modulo y programador ideal para atmosferas y secuencias delgadas.


k

19-Jan-99

to take the 3p out of omni mode, try sending midi control #127 with a value greater than one. This is considerably easier than the hold six keys down bit.

The JX-3P doesn't have a cartidge port like the MKS-30. And the 3P doesnot send out sysex info either.
Furthermore, it is actually quite difficult to port sounds from one to the other. The mks has paramter values of 1-100, while the 3P only has values of 1-16. Using the pg-200 with the same settings on each machine will produce slightly varying results and isn't all that easy to get the two to sound exactly similar. (Though, "close enough" isn't that hard to obtain."

The mks-30 is a wicked machine and if you can find one cheaply, pick it up. One last note, ht e3p can be programmed quite easily without the pg-200. The same can't be said for the mks-30.


dj VoCoRE- kArM

19-Jan-99

i iMpLeMeNt tHiS BeAuTy In MaH PyScHeDiLiC TrAnCe cOmPoSiTiOnS


Johannes

19-Jan-99

I have made a MIDI upgrade (sysex, etc.) for the MKS-30,

which is available as a kit from me.

Look at:



http://home.c2i.net/iotech/analog/


simon riddle

25-Jul-03

Hi,
I have just bought a roland jx 3p but do not have the pg 200 control unit.
Do you know where I can get one?
Chers.


aaron

22-Aug-07

This review is inaccurate (like many other reviews of the jx3p). The filters and oscilators are indeed analogue. DCO means digitally controlled oscillator. It is a method of keeping the oscillator in sync (pitch) on a more reliable basis than voltage controlled. In plain words, they are analogue oscillators with a digitally controlled clock. The Juno and all the JX's of the time (jx8p, super jupiter, etc) and use the same synthesis engine, some with more oscs, waveforms, or more filter options, etc.


Loic Rathscheck

08-Jun-09

Weblink: link

Exactly as mentioned in the previous comment, you made an important mistake when reviewing this synth.
It is an analogue synth with analogue oscillators! They are only digitally controlled.

The sound is 100% analogue!

You may want to correct that because the MKS 30 does not deserve to be called digital.
Other than that, the review is ok. Thanks for sharing it online.


admin

09-Jun-09

well i own one and it doesnt sound analog at all like a typical analog synth does. It is listed here as a DCO synth which is correct isnt it? Hard to describe the sound, but it's got a thinner sound, more ringing in tone, and it does square wave sounds more like a yamaha dx series with a very hollow ringing more digital sounding square wave for example. great synth tho. IF you have the PG controller, otherwise a bit of a nightmare to edit with cursors and buttons.


laurie

18-Aug-09

[quote] Kilo wrote: Commonly available & cheap early Roland DCO synth with dedicated Controller unit [/quote]
Poor guy.....thinks it is digital........

The JX3p is Analog oscillators, analog filters and amplifiers.....

The Souns is real analog....


laurie

18-Aug-09

The JX3p is entirely analog.....
The DX7 is completely digital.....big difference....
Dx is like my SQ80....thin and aliases everywhere...

but the JX3P is analog...exact same osc as in the Juno....
DCO is a replacement for a VCO...
The Analog oscillator is more stable tuning wise as it is not controlled by a fluctuating voltage(due to heat etc...)
The Amp and the frequency of the analog oscillators are digitally controlled...but that only affects the stability....not the analog sound....





Last added comment


Pat

02-Apr-10

Just because I like replying to posts that started 10 years ago. :)

Referencing the schematics, the JX-3P and MKS-30 use an assortment of timers and discrete analog components for oscillators. As mentioned above, the MKS-50, Juno, JX-8P, JX-10P, MKS-70, etc, are also DCO synths, with variation on the details of implementation.

Notably, the JX-3P/MKS-30 use the same filter (IR3109) as the Jupiter 8.

As was mentioned above, there is no slot for carts on the JX-3P, and no tape i/o, etc, on the MKS-30.

I can say with certainty that the PG-200 is able to adjust with 256 steps of accuracy, which sounds like a lot, but you can hear stairstepping in the filters if you adjust manually. I'm not sure where k above got the 16 steps notion, the "sens" knob can be used for data entry. There is no way that I know of to do this on the MKS-30.

Personally when I could only afford 2 synths, I sold my JX-3P since it lacked portamento and also (as many find) I personally felt the sound was very lacking in depth. That said, I now own a MKS-30 and a JX-3P, and even developed a box that lets me record knob twiddles off the PG-200 via MIDI. It is a great synth for what it does... IMO sweeps and pads, and some novelty sounds (certain techno basses, etc)


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